Rational Security

Joe de Feo

Rational Security is a weekly roundtable podcast featuring Shane Harris of the Washington Post and Susan Hennessey, Tamara Cofman Wittes and Benjamin Wittes of the Brookings Institution. It’s a lively and irreverent discussion of news, ideas, foreign policy, and law. There’s always a laugh. Sometimes there’s even scotch. You can subscribe here or on iTunes

Latest in Rational Security


Rational Security: The 'Purge' Edition

The White House launches a purge at the Homeland Security Department. Some prosecutors in Robert Mueller’s office are frustrated by the attorney general’s portrayal of their report. And the Trump administration designates Iran’s Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps as a foreign terrorist organization.

Shane loves an item we can’t sell.

Susan loves this cover for the Mueller report.


Rational Security: The 'Mar-a-Lago Thumb Drive Lady' Edition

A White House official claims more than two dozen denials for security clearances were overturned. Six months after Saudi agents killed journalist Jamal Khashoggi, what has changed in the U.S-Saudi relationship? And oversight committees gear up for the post-Mueller era.

Susan is watching a lawsuit about how former spies may speak their minds.


Rational Security: The 'Still Waiting for the Mueller Report' Edition

This week: What else?! The gang talks about Bill Barr's summary of the Mueller report. What did the special counsel say about a Trump campaign conspiracy with Russia? What did he say about obstruction of justice by the president? And what happens when, as expected, we all get to read the Mueller report itself (or some portion of it)?

Shane is relieved that a cloud has finally lifted on an embattled president.


Rational Security: The 'Domestic is Global' Edition

The killing of 50 Muslims by a white supremacist in New Zealand prompts us to reconsider the meaning of domestic terrorism. The Pentagon identifies projects it will cut to pay for President Trump’s border wall. And the Trump administration revokes visas for investigators with the International Criminal Court.

Tamara asks, is Israel in democratic decline?


Rational Security: The 'Lock Him Up' Edition

Former Trump campaign manager Paul Manafort is heading to prison, and facing new charges. If you thought the Arab Spring was over, think again. And a massage parlor owner with suspected links to the Chinese government was reportedly selling access to Trump’s private Florida resort.

Susan salutes William Webster, crime fighter.

Tammy is breaking up with her phone.


Rational Security: The 'Sensitive Compartmented Kushner' Edition

Why does senior White House adviser Jared Kushner have a security clearance? President Trump comes back from a summit meeting with Kim Jong Un empty-handed. And the NSA has apparently stopped a controversial surveillance program that collected Americans’ phone records.

Susan is fresh from her interview with Chris Wray.

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